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blm14
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ben@maybeinnovations:~$ syndaemon -i 1 -d
Unable to find a synaptics device.
ben@maybeinnovations:~$



It's an ALPS touchpad, not synaptic. :(
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deach
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I've never seen that come up yet, on either synaptics or alps touch pad....Let me do a little more digging and see what I actually have on that laptop that might be different.
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blm14
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Still driving me nuts! I will paypal anyone $100 who can fix this LOL
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deach
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I haven't been able to get the laptop that had the alps touchpad back into my possession yet. I haven't forgotten about your problem though. As soon as I can get at it and see I'll let you know exactly what I did.
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blm14
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I am crying. CRYING!
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deach
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OK let's check back here. Are you back to LMDE or still running ubuntu. I just did a LMDE install on a laptop with alps touchpad and it seems to have detected everything correctly. Ive still not seen the owner with the E5400 so I cannot get at that to verify what I did. However let's see if we cannot get this going for you I'm willing to try.

Let me know which OS you've got running now, we'll go from there...
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trulan
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Well, I found something that helps...It seems my touchpad was being loaded as a PS/2 Mouse because, well, it was being told to.
/etc/modprobe.d/touchpad.conf

had this line in it:
psmouse proto=imps

So I commented that out, now I get both a PS/2 Mouse and an ALPS GlidePoint in gpointing-device-settings. Most of the settings under ALPS seem to have some effect. Scrolling works now too, and can be turned on and off.

The one feature that seems to be completely gone is tap-clicking. I now have settings to enable or disable it, but they have no effect.

I wonder if there would be another psmouse proto= setting that would make all the features work?
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deach
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I don't have /etc/modprobe.d/touchpad.conf

a quick search revealed "psmouse proto=auto"
or..."psmouse proto=exps"

as I don't have that file I cannot comment further on that

My OS started as an aptosid install and is now simply sid if that's of any help.

Still would like a little more info on which OS you're running there, which kernel and such...

Deach
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trulan
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I'm running AVLinux, which is essentially debian testing/lxde - at least that's what this started out as. I have upgraded a fair amount of stuff to sid, not the least of which was Xorg, which is currently at 1.7.6+6 on my machine, and xserver-xorg-input-synaptics, at 1.4.0-1.

Kernels are:
2.6.39-rc4 (my own build of vanilla source)
2.6.38-3.dmz.1-liquorix-686
The touchpad behaves exactly the same on both kernels. Everything seems to work perfectly except for tap-clicking, which is broken now. The whole goal here was to disable that I know, but I'd still much rather have it disabled than broken, if you know what I mean...

I do not have an xorg.conf. The psmouse module is loaded, and modprobe -r psmouse disables the touchpad. Other possibly relevant modules I see in lsmod are evdev, hid, and usbhid.

Here's the relevant part of my /var/log/Xorg.0.log:
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[    23.737] (II) config/udev: Adding input device PS/2 Mouse (/dev/input/event7)
[    23.737] (**) PS/2 Mouse: Applying InputClass "evdev pointer catchall"
[    23.737] (**) PS/2 Mouse: always reports core events
[    23.737] (**) PS/2 Mouse: Device: "/dev/input/event7"
[    23.740] (--) PS/2 Mouse: Found 3 mouse buttons
[    23.740] (--) PS/2 Mouse: Found relative axes
[    23.740] (--) PS/2 Mouse: Found x and y relative axes
[    23.740] (II) PS/2 Mouse: Configuring as mouse
[    23.740] (**) PS/2 Mouse: YAxisMapping: buttons 4 and 5
[    23.740] (**) PS/2 Mouse: EmulateWheelButton: 4, EmulateWheelInertia: 10, EmulateWheelTimeout: 200
[    23.740] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "PS/2 Mouse" (type: MOUSE)
[    23.740] (**) PS/2 Mouse: (accel) keeping acceleration scheme 1
[    23.740] (**) PS/2 Mouse: (accel) acceleration profile 0
[    23.740] (**) PS/2 Mouse: (accel) acceleration factor: 2.000
[    23.740] (**) PS/2 Mouse: (accel) acceleration threshold: 4
[    23.740] (II) PS/2 Mouse: initialized for relative axes.
[    23.740] (II) config/udev: Adding input device PS/2 Mouse (/dev/input/mouse1)
[    23.740] (II) No input driver/identifier specified (ignoring)
[    23.740] (II) config/udev: Adding input device AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint (/dev/input/event8)
[    23.740] (**) AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint: Applying InputClass "evdev touchpad catchall"
[    23.740] (**) AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint: Applying InputClass "touchpad catchall"
[    23.740] (II) LoadModule: "synaptics"
[    23.741] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/synaptics_drv.so
[    23.841] (II) Module synaptics: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[    23.841]    compiled for 1.9.4, module version = 1.4.0
[    23.841]    Module class: X.Org XInput Driver
[    23.841]    ABI class: X.Org XInput driver, version 11.0
[    23.841] (**) Option "Device" "/dev/input/event8"
[    23.882] (--) AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint: x-axis range 0 - 1023
[    23.882] (--) AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint: y-axis range 0 - 767
[    23.882] (--) AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint: pressure range 0 - 127
[    23.882] (--) AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint: buttons: left right scroll-buttons
[    23.882] (--) AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint: invalid finger width range.  defaulting to 0 - 16
[    23.898] (--) AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint: touchpad found
[    23.898] (**) AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint: always reports core events
[    23.904] (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint" (type: TOUCHPAD)
[    23.904] (**) AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint: (accel) MinSpeed is now constant deceleration 2.5
[    23.904] (**) AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint: MaxSpeed is now 1.75
[    23.904] (**) AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint: AccelFactor is now 0.156
[    23.904] (**) AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint: (accel) keeping acceleration scheme 1
[    23.904] (**) AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint: (accel) acceleration profile 1
[    23.904] (**) AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint: (accel) acceleration factor: 2.000
[    23.904] (**) AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint: (accel) acceleration threshold: 4
[    23.915] (--) AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint: touchpad found
[    23.915] (II) config/udev: Adding input device AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint (/dev/input/mouse2)
[    23.915] (**) AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint: Applying InputClass "touchpad catchall"
[    23.915] (**) Option "Device" "/dev/input/mouse2"
[    23.922] (--) AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint: invalid x-axis range.  defaulting to 1615 - 5685
[    23.922] (--) AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint: invalid y-axis range.  defaulting to 1729 - 4171
[    23.922] (--) AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint: invalid pressure range.  defaulting to 0 - 256
[    23.922] (--) AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint: invalid finger width range.  defaulting to 0 - 16
[    23.942] (EE) Query no Synaptics: 6003C8
[    23.942] (--) AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint: no supported touchpad found
[    23.942] (EE) AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint Unable to query/initialize Synaptics hardware.
[    23.955] (EE) PreInit returned NULL for "AlpsPS/2 ALPS GlidePoint"

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blm14
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:: deach wrote ::
OK let's check back here. Are you back to LMDE or still running ubuntu. I just did a LMDE install on a laptop with alps touchpad and it seems to have detected everything correctly. Ive still not seen the owner with the E5400 so I cannot get at that to verify what I did. However let's see if we cannot get this going for you I'm willing to try.

Let me know which OS you've got running now, we'll go from there...


Ubuntu 10.10. LMDE had way too many dependency problems and broken packages.
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