Liquorix 4.13 and 4.14 kernels crash upon boot-up
kenny_w
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Hey guys, every time I try to use the liquorix i686 non-pae kernel it crashes when I try to boot, it gives me some funny error regarding systemd or something of that sort, I've just copied down the errors manually because I don't know where the log file for these crashes would go.
I get this error on Debian, MX-Linux and SparkyLinux, so it would seem to be regardless of init system, and also its not only on BTRFS, as SparkyLinux doesn't support BTRFS - only EXT4. I am however using BTRFS this time around. I tried this on the SparkyLinux ISO that is built on Debian testing too and I STILL get these errors so I've kind of ruled out it being able to be because I'm running it on Debian stable.

Is anyone else experiencing problems with the 4.13 & 4.14 kernels??? I don't understand why it would give me these funny errors, I'm running MX-Linux 17 which doesn't even primarily use SystemD, it uses SysV primarily. I use the 4.12 liquorix kernel which works fine!

Alrighty, I just typed out the error that came up.
It would seem that the odd time it would boot, but its not often, maybe 1 out of 5 or 10 tries it'll actually work, very strange behaviour!

:: Code ::

Kernel BUG at /build/linux-liquorix-4.14/block/bfq-sq-iosched.c:712!
invalid opcode: 0000 [#1] PREEMPT SMP
Modules linked in: uinput nfsd auth_rpcgss oid_registry nfs_acl nfs lockd grace fscache sunrpc ipv4 crc_ccitt ecryptfs loop parport_pc
 ppdev lp parport dm_crypt dm_mod btusb uvcvideo btrtl btbcm btintel videobuf2_vmalloc videobuf2_memops bluetooth videobuf2_v412
 videobuf2_core ecdh_generic crc16 videodev media iTCO_wdt iTCO_vendor_support dell_laptop dell_smbios compal_laptop dcdbas
 dell_smm_hwmon arc4 coretemp evdev input_leds joydev rtl8821ae serio_raw snd_hda_codec_realtek btcoexist snd_hda_codec_generic
 rtl_pci rtlwifi snd_hda_intel i915 mac80211 snd_hda_codec snd_hda_core snd_hwdep drm_kms_helper lpc_ich snd_pcm cfg80211
 snd_timer drm rng_core rfkill snd i2c_algo_bit fb_sys_fops syscopyarea sysfillrect soundcore sysimgblt intel_agp intel_gtt shpchp battery
 ac video button acpi_cpufreq crc32c_generic btrfs xor zstd_decompress zstd_compress xxhash raid6_pq sd_mod ata_generic pata_acpi
 ata_piix psmouse libata i2c_i801 i2c_core scsi_mod ehci_pci r8169 uhci_hcd ehci_hcd mii thermal rtc-cmos
CPU: 1 PID: 1867 Comm: samba-tool Not tainted 4.14.0-6.1-liquorix-686 #1 liquorix 4.14-9
Hardware name: Dell Inc. Inspiron 1011/CN0Y53 BIOS A06 07/29/2009
task: f1f1d500 task.stack: f0920000
EIP: bfq_bfqq_resume_state+0x2a0/0x470
EFLAGS: 00010082 CPU: 1
EAX: f489a6c8 EBX: f488ec00 ECX: f4751c00 EDX: 00000000
ESI: fffb9b75 EDI: 00000000 EBP: f09218e0 ESP: f0921844
 DS: 007b ES: 007b FS: 00d8 GS: 00e0 SS: 0068
CR0: 80050033 CR2: 08b2e000 CR3: 308c6000 CR4: 000006d0


Most of the time its different(like the text underneath), everything is really big like the proper resolution hasn't set.
:: Code ::

? btrfs_submit_direct+0x790/0x780 [btrfs]
btrfs_readpages+0x17/0x20 [btrfs]
? btrfs_direct_IO+0x430/0x430 [btrfs]
__do_page_cache_readahead+0x146/0x200
page_cache_sync_readahead+0x14c/0x300
generic_file_read_iter+0x659/0x910
? security_file_premisssion+0x86/0xb0
kernel_read+0x32f/ox370
kernel_read_file.part.6+0xbf/0x1b0
kernel_read_file_from_fd+0xa3/0xd0
SyS_finit_module+0x4d/0x90
do_fast_syscall_32+0x6c/0x1d0
entry_SYSENTER_32+0x4e/0x7c
EIP: 0xb7f30d95
EFLAGS: 00000292 CPU: 0
EAX: ffffffda EBX: 00000010 ECX: b7ea3bb1 EDX: 00000000
ESI: 01447d8 EDI: 01144aa8 EBP: 00000000 ESP: bfae53bc
DS: 007b ES: 007b FS: 0000 GS: 0033 SS: 007b
Code: ff 8d 75 00 8d bc 27 00 00 00 00 8b 76 04 e9 4b fe ff ff 90 8d b4 26 00 00
00 00 8b 42 04 e9 58 ff ff ff 90 8d b4 26 00 00 00 00 <0f> 0b 8d b6 00 00 00 00
8b b0 e0 00 00 00 89 b5 68 ff ff ff e9
EIP bfq_bfqq_resume_state+0x2a0/0x480 SS:ESP: 0068:f46e39bc
---[ end trace 65d39d3a45d3404f ]---
note: systemd-udevd[449] exited with preempt_count 1

sometimes its [443] instead of [449]
and sometimes it does something similar but instead at the bottom its
:: Code ::

--[ end trace 56387d5f8910fa2c ]--
note: samba-tool[1879] exited with preempt_count 1
Segmentation fault


< Edited by kenny_w :: Dec 16, 17, 4:52 >

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so damentz can see what system you have.
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Here you go. I also had this problem on SparkyLinux(Debian testing base) as well as a pure Debian stable. I'm running MX-Linux 17 now.
I think I even got these errors on AntiX, although I COULD be wrong, I think I tried it on AntiX, pretty sure I did.

:: Code ::

System:    Host: kz-netbook Kernel: 4.12.0-14.3-liquorix-686 i686 bits: 32 gcc: 6.4.0
           Desktop: LXDE (Openbox 3.6.1) info: lxpanel dm: lxdm
           Distro: MX-17_386 Horizon December 15, 2017
Machine:   Device: portable System: Dell product: Inspiron 1011 v: A06 serial: N/A
           Mobo: Dell model: CN0Y53 v: A06 serial: N/A BIOS: Dell v: A06 date: 07/29/2009
Battery    BAT1: charge: 45.5 Wh 99.3% condition: 45.8/57.7 Wh (79%) volts: 12.3/11.1
           model: SDI DELL N533P9CF Li-ion serial: 11 status: Discharging cycles: 0
CPU:       Single core Intel Atom N270 (-MT-) arch: Bonnell rev.2 speed: 1600 MHz (max)
Graphics:  Card: Intel Mobile 945GSE Express Integrated Graphics Controller
           bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:27ae
           Display Server: X.Org 1.19.2 drivers: intel (unloaded: modesetting,fbdev,vesa)
           Resolution: 1024x600@59.99hz
           OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel 945GME x86/MMX/SSE2
           version: 2.1 Mesa 13.0.6 Direct Render: Yes
Network:   Card-1: Realtek RTL8821AE 802.11ac PCIe Wireless Network Adapter
           driver: rtl8821ae port: 2000 bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8821
           Card-2: Realtek RTL8101/2/6E PCIE Fast/Gigabit Ethernet controller
           driver: r8169 v: 2.3LK-NAPI port: 3000 bus-ID: 04:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8136
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 128.0GB (8.8% used)
Info:      Processes: 190 Uptime: 1 min Memory: 183.1/2006.9MB
           Init: SysVinit v: 2.88 runlevel: 5 default: 5 Gcc sys: 6.3.0
           Client: Shell (bash 4.4.121 running in python2) inxi: 2.3.53

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Is there a chance the Liquorix kernel developers could perhaps make it so that the headers will install with gcc-8?
I can add an "experimental" gcc-8 while keeping my gcc-6 intact from the debian "experimental" repo, it would be soooo much more convenient that way, because then Debian stable users would be able to utilize the Liquorix kernel no problem.
I tried compiling gcc-7 from source but APT didn't want to find it...
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:: kenny_w wrote ::
Is there a chance the Liquorix kernel developers could perhaps make it so that the headers will install with gcc-8?
I can add an "experimental" gcc-8 while keeping my gcc-6 intact from the debian "experimental" repo, it would be soooo much more convenient that way, because then Debian stable users would be able to utilize the Liquorix kernel no problem.
I tried compiling gcc-7 from source but APT didn't want to find it...


Stretch users can already use the rebuilds from my OBS repo! Cart-horse spatial inversion?
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The Liquorix 4.14 kernel seems to be working for me now, odd. Although its done this before where it'll work once or twice then it'll start screwing up again, so I guess we'll see.

....Your OBS repo? What's OBS? Cart horse what? I remember your name, you're on the MX-Linux/AntiX developers team I think right? You and Dolphin.

<removed pointless political rant>

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Look, if you're going to make a political rant, make it somewhere else, and also, if you're going to comment on free software being political, well, i'm really sad to inform you that from the very inception of the gpl it was explicitly political, free as in freedom, that's a political statement. I think you're confused in a fundamental way. You seem to be believe that 'political' means 'does not agree with me or my political views', and that non political means the opposite.

There's an irony to complaining about someone's politics (which were never even discussed here until you felt the need to start blathering about them), when you are the only person here who talked about politics at all. The other people I guess are a bit less insecure or something.

To be technically accurate, GPL was designed specifically to enforce socialist sharing of code, from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs. That's the intellectual foundation of free software, so if you're looking for the non free ideology, you want to shift to either Windows or Apple products. But you won't escape the political in either case, since both simply embody different political ideologies.

Apparently in your world, nobody is allowed to have differing political views than you. And I assume further, that science in its modern forms is also 'political', because it is observing events that you probably also believe are 'political', not empirically verifiable objective reality.

So yeah, feel free to post on technical issues, but keep the political bs out of the tech forums, and if you want to talk potitics elsewhere, you'd better show something more coherent than what you just demonstrated, and which I've removed so that you don't have to suffer from the embarrassment of anyone else actually having seen what you wrote.

And no, there's no 'free speech' on privately owned and operated forums, and in particular, there is certainly no freedom to post stupid political rants out of any real context in a thread about the Linux kernel having issues with whatever, I mean, yes you are free to post relevant topics, but you are not free to spout this kind of bullshit here, and particularly not against people who actually do something to help the projects they work with, and free software in general, using their real and finite personal time and energy. And have done so for many years.

[update] This user has now been banned from the forums, the first user ever, in over 10 years, to have achieved that status. That's due to further posts he made, along the same lines, that have been deleted. On a technical note, all the time he spent writing those was wasted since we never even looked at them once it became apparent that his main goal was to repeat the same nonsense The liquorix forums are not made for this type of crap, nor will it be tolerated. The site owner sets the absolute policy, he pays for the site, he runs the site, and he can ban users who demonstrate a total inability to engage in civil discourse in an appropriate manner, and most important, in keeping with the forum topic in question. Again, this is the first user ever to have been banned from these forums, and I hope it's the last.

I don't believe any further warning to other users is required since this is literally the first person who has demonstrated this degree absurdity. Again, we won't allow this kind of crap here, we won't read it, and we'll delete your posts and private communications without even looking at them. Again, this is a privately run and owned forum, and we can set whatever policies we want, and I am very happy to say that we have never in as noted over 10 years had to have dealt with such nonsense, and I hope we can continue to maintain an overall civil place for technical discussions to take place.
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