Why never buy MSI, ECS, or PCchips mobos
trash80
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MSI, ECS, and PCchips are all part of a conglomerate. They are basically the same company with different manufacturing plants.

I have an ECS from years ago, socket 370, that works ok, but it was a one off board so ECS doesn't share the connector info on the mobo. The mobo was made to have connectors for about everything, ie serial ports, parallel ports, audio, video, and the usual stuff.

PCchips was known in the 90's to solder plastic 'chips' on the motherboard and sell them as having L2 cache. The chips had nothing inside.

Afaik, none of their habits seem to have changed.

I recommend as a do not buy.
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ckosloff
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I just saw this post, agree, like, drats! there's no social media here.
I bought an MSI mobo some years ago, tons of grief.
Had mobo RMA'd twice, they told me to check processor.
Sent chip back to AMD, only to receive a pass with flying colors.
Upgrading BIOS only led to system crashes after BIOS loaded successfully.
Got it to work, but problems never really solved, sometimes it decides that it will not boot, have to boot into safe mode, then back into optimized.
Again, there is no question of the BIOS not upgraded properly, it is just a big POS.
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aus9
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Joined: 21 Sep 2008
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well I bought my ECS cheap mobo in 2009.

its still going good....blow it...now I have posted that it should fail now eh?

I bought it purely on price and value as I don't need gaming pc or video editting etc

pc re-build from siduction but converted to Enlightenment and Liquorix kernel
- I don't have sensors installed but have a manual fan when aussie summer occurs I boost speed

:: Code ::

System:    Host: sid Kernel: 3.4.0-2.dmz.2-liquorix-686 i686 (32 bit)
           Desktop: Enlightenment 0.16.999.71001 Distro: siduction 12.1 Desperado - lxde - (201205212227)
Machine:   System: ECS product: 945GCT-M2 version: 1.x
           Mobo: ECS model: 945GCT-M2 version: ECS Bios: American Megatrends version: 080012 date: 05/14/2008
CPU:       Dual core Pentium CPU E5200 (-MCP-) cache: 2048 KB flags: (lm nx sse sse2 sse3 ssse3)
           Clock Speeds: 1: 2494.108 MHz 2: 2494.108 MHz
Graphics:  Card: NVIDIA G96 [GeForce 9500 GT] X.Org: 1.12.1.902 driver: vesa Resolution: 1680x1050@0.0hz
           GLX Renderer: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x209) GLX Version: 2.1 Mesa 8.0.3
Audio:     Card: Intel N10/ICH 7 Family High Definition Audio Controller driver: snd_hda_intel Sound: ALSA ver: 1.0.25
Network:   Card: Realtek RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ driver: 8139too
           IF: eth0 state: unknown speed: 100 Mbps duplex: full mac: 00:21:97:76:2d:da
Drives:    HDD Total Size: 80.0GB (15.6% used) 1: id: /dev/sda model: WDC_WD800JD size: 80.0GB
Partition: ID: / size: 16G used: 2.8G (19%) fs: ext3
Sensors:   System Temperatures: cpu: 40.0C mobo: N/A
           Fan Speeds (in rpm): cpu: N/A
Info:      Processes: 112 Uptime: 30 min Memory: 225.9/2024.1MB Client: Shell inxi: 1.8.13

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